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Re: Topic of the Week / 2: Broadwell / Skylake
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Hi !
I want to know if the winner of this week is announced or not.
Thanks !

Posted on: 2015/6/25 17:02
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Re: Topic of the Week / 2: Broadwell / Skylake
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Thanks Rewarder !
I always feel happy with good people with great knowledge.
I agree what you mentioned.
But think this way, IMO Intel already have more advanced technology which they will release in 1-2 years. Because they know how to rip off consumer and make money through every release with little increment in performance.
Just like nVidia who had GTX 980 Ti before Titan X but they released it later because they first made money by releasing Fastest GPU for consumers with 12 Gigs VRAM.
These are two tech giants without a doubt and its sad to see them working for money rather than innovation.
I can bet Intel already have 6th Gen stuff ready, but first they will make money with current gen hardware with 5-10% performance increase.
Only if AMD or any other manufacturer give them competition, their future releases will come with more increase in performance TBH.
What are your views about it ?

Posted on: 2015/6/11 8:31
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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Thank you very much.
Congratulations Mark011

Posted on: 2015/6/11 8:12
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Re: Topic of the Week / 2: Broadwell / Skylake
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Hi !
Great topic. I was actually thinking about same since years.
Intel always release their tick-tocks after a certain period, but this time they got greedy and released it soon.
Now a days whenever Intel releases a new Generation of processors and chipsets, it comes with 5-10% performance gain only. Why ?
Because there is no one in competition.
There were days when AMD had strong CPU line ups like Athlon, Phenom and Intel was struggling to fight with them. Intel used to give the best innovation to users back back then. Now things have changed, Intel knows that consumers will take every shit that Intel will throw to them only for a 5-10 % performance gain. To me it is Intel's marketing strategy to make more and more out of business.
In terms of performance Broadwell is still a beast so why release a new Chipset with a fewer benefits. Intel should stop for a while and create something with greater benefits and performance increase.

Posted on: 2015/6/10 6:28
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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What was the result of the competition ?
Is it over ?

Posted on: 2015/6/6 17:55
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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Its "Do or Die" for AMD now.

Posted on: 2015/6/3 8:03
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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Regarding your point that AMD is pushing in the console/entry-level market: Well I would necessarily mention these two in the same phrase. In the case of consoles it is Microsoft and Sony who tell their manufacturer (in this case AMD) what the want. AMD has then to meet their demand. If AMD or whoever is able to offer an interesting deal, then Microsoft and Sony will be interested and buy chips. When it comes to consoles, there must be entry-level chips, otherwise the console would be too expensive in the end.

Apart from that AMD has always been a chip maker as well. The problem there is that their struggling a lot to keep up with Intel in terms of IPC and on top of that AMD was bound to Globalfoundries for a long time and sutck with 32nm process technology. In the mean time their main competitor was pushing towards 22nm and now 14nm pulling away like a rocket. At this point I don't even want to start writing about architectural improvements ...

I share your opinion that the launch of the new high-end graphics cards is very important. Checking market research papers from Jon Peddie Research it becomes clear that AMD really needs to score if they don't want to lose even more ground to NVIDIA. I'm really hoping AMD is working on something like a full package. If I had some wishes free I would hope such a package includes DX12 optimization, a game bundle and a ridiculously fast card thanks to HBM memory


I think AMD can do with DX12 very well because its very much like Mantle and can benefit the performance very well.
Now only if they can pair it with good software, it will be a deal-breaker. If not, they will be far behind nVidia in GPU market like they do in CPU market with Intel. Horrible IPC and shard cache ruined their CPU division and worst of all, 5 years old chipset and socket is taking them nowhere in future.
Wake up call AMD.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 10:18
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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AMD just need to focus on software side as they already ahve good hardware. But problem is that they are struggling while marketing their GPUs.
They should work with developers to get the software optimized and AMD logo before game starts.
End user is gonna be benefited with the increasing competition. So its a win-win situation for us if they get more competitive.

Posted on: 2015/5/27 14:01
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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Well said Rewarder !
AMD cards have lots of potential but it needs proper drivers and software. I have noticed a lot of stability and performance increase after their Omega driver release, they also released optimized drivers for Witcher3 but somehow its not enough. They need to keep an eye on gaming market and should release drivers more often when new games (especially like big titles as Far Cry4, AC Unity, Witcher3) are released.
Now I am looking for new 390x release if they make some improvement on driver side as well as on hardware. HBM is very powerful technology, now its on AMD how they will use it with DirectX12. I hope it will be a game changer.

Posted on: 2015/5/27 8:02
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Re: Topic of the Week: AMD Game Optimisation !
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I think its not AMD's fault.
nVidia throw money at developers and they work with them to optimize the games so that the games having "Meant to be played on nVidia" thing will run better on nVidia hardware. nVidia in return get their GPUs sold with less effort and get away with a lot of money.
AMD on the other hand does not have so many assets like nVidia and they are not able to feed the greed of developers who only want to make money instead of thinking about end-user independent of platform.
Nvidia drivers get WHQL certification on the first day becaus ethey have money, AMD on the other hand release their drivers which are stable and finalized and work flawlessly. They just do not get WHQL certification because they do not want to spend money on that and IMO its totally fine.
I have used both company's GPUs and I love both of them. AMD offers best price/performance ratio to end user while nVida gives top notch performance but at a high price (Only Exception id 9XX series Especially GTX 970). nVidia also did some mis-marketing about the VRAM and ROP specification of their GPUs while AMD have a good reputation in this field.

If we talk about Latest Witcher 3, everyone knows nVidia have better tessellation capabilities than AMD but they just forced (Just my opinion) developers to set Tessellation in Witcher 3 to 64 times so that it becomes hard to play on AMD (Again my thought)

I loved my GTX 560Ti from Nvida and HD 6770 from AMD.
Now I am rocking on my 280x and when I bought it, its equivalent GTX 770 was 30% more expensive for the same performance.



Posted on: 2015/5/26 15:51
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